Remote Metal Pole Barn and Signal Extender

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I currently am using the AcuRite Access and various temperature and humidity sensors that are working fine and have excellent signal strength (BTW switched over from the SmartHUB and signal strength improved significantly - thanks AcuRite!)  I want to add another sensor (either a 06002M or 06044M) to monitor the temp and humidity in a metal pole barn that is over 300 ft away from the Access unit.  I am not getting any signal from either of the above sensor models when located in the barn, and have tried moving the sensors to different spots in the barn and still cannot pick up a signal. 

I considered adding a wireless signal extender (06053M).  I understand that Access cannot be receiving a signal from any sensors in order for the signal extender to work.  If I uninstall the batteries in all of the other sensors (or put all the sensors in the barn) so that no signals are seen by the Access, then install the signal extender, then bring the previously existing sensors back into range in their previous locations, any chance that they would then work, including the one in the pole barn?  I could probably get the signal extender located within 100 ft of the sensor in the pole barn).

Or am I just plain screwed with trying to monitor conditions inside the pole barn?  Suggestions appreciated.

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George D. Nincehelser

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The Access works on the first signal it hears.  If your sensor is giving a signal of "1" according to the Access, the repeated signal will be ignored.  This makes people think things "aren't working" because they don't see a boosted signal being received.  You'll only see that boosted signal if the original signal is out-of-range.  It's not that it "doesn't work", it's more that it doesn't work like people expect (always seeing a boosted signal).

It sounds more like your problem is that you are at the edge of range (300 feet) and trying to get a signal through the metal of the barn, which is going to be difficult .

What you'll probably need to do is put the sensor in the barn near a window or translucent fiberglass panel.  Then position the repeater so it can "see" the sensor through the window or panel, and also "see" the Access.
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My understanding is that the repeater will not work (Access will not use it) if Access hears a signal from other sensors in range. That's why I was going to take the batteries out of these sensors in order for Access to recognize the repeater/out-of-range sensors, and then hopefully put the batteries back in my other sensors, and live happily ever after. Something tells me I'm expecting too much from this system.
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That is not correct.  Like I tried to explain earlier, the Access will work on the first signal it hears.  It ignores repeated signals that it has already heard.

You don't need to take out any batteries or otherwise disable any other sensors.
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So if I can somehow get the repeater and sensor in the barn to talk, that's it? I guess I got confused reading other posts in the forum re: the repeater not working.
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Yep.
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Thanks for your assistance - appreciate the help!
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Are the polebarn walls Metal?  You may need to mount one of these on the outside
https://www.acurite.com/outdoor-temperature-humidity-monitor-00275rm.html
and use one of these  with it
https://www.acurite.com/spot-check-temperature-humidity-sensor-06012rm.html
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Bryan,

This may be a bit pricey for you, but here goes.

You said you have AC power to the pole barn.

If you use an Ethernet-over-powerline solution, with one unit in the home connected to your router, and one unit in the pole barn, providing a place for Access in the barn to connect to the network, you could send data to the web.

Sensors outside the pole barn would have a hard time transmitting in, but maybe this would work for you.
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The barn is on an adjacent property with no common wiring between them (other than the transmission line). ???? I'm kinda new to this technology, but intrigued.
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Well, if there is no AC wiring in common, no EoP solution will work. Too bad.
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since you have power
another rather pricey solution. 2 Access (can be fairly old, b,g types)Points with External Yagi Antennas 1 set at the house, the other at the barn.  This extends (can be quite far apart AS LONG AS LINE OF SIGHT) the Ethernet to the barn, Put an Access in the barn (this would also support 1 or 2 IP cams)
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Great ideas to consider. I'm sure I will want internet access in the barn as well, and was considering hotspot thru my Verizon wireless service. Thanks for everyone's thoughts.