Forecast shown on MyAcuRite dashboard is for wrong location

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On the very bottom left of MyAcuRite dashboard is found "Forecast powered by Forecast" If click on the underlined "Forecast" a new browser page is opened and a forecast location provided by darksky.net is shown. This forecast location is about 30 miles (29.6 road miles in a straight line) away from the location of my equipment and buildings. The provided forecast is always wrong; i.e. temp too high, precipitation forecast wrong, etc. If I erase the location shown and insert my address, a location closer to me appears, but only lasts for the current session.

My postal ZIP code in NOT being used for the forecast, contrary to statements made in the setup and help texts. I reported this problem to AcuRite Chaney on 10-31-16 via telephone. The rep at that time looked at her dashboard. Her location is Lake Geneva, WI; she had a forecast for Northern Illinois!! She figured it was about 30 miles away.

It appears no action has been taken to fix this problem. Comments from the gallery please.

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George D. Nincehelser

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Acurite does use your address for the forecast.  This is typically taken from the zip code, rather than your street address, as the forecasts from "forecast" (aka darksky and forecast.io) aren't that specific in the first place.

I understand the API for darksky specifies latitude and longitude, but that doesn't mean they have that kind of precision.   It depends on what kind and how much data is available for your area.
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Poster above did not read OP post. Latitude and longitude shown on My AcuRite dashboard is from Google Maps. Read last sentence of first paragraph from OP. My location ZIP code is NOT being used by any forecasting application, unless something is using the first three digits only which makes absolutely no sense. The NWS has much more precision that 'darksky' (forecast.io)
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Yes.  I did indeed read what you wrote.

You wrote that you clicked on the "Forecast" link at the bottom of the page.  What that pulls up is not a forecast per Acurite's query, but rather a forecast for your "location" as determined by the IP address assigned to by your ISP with a reverse-DNS lookup.  These can sometimes be wildly inaccurate and even change from day to day.  A few months back Time-Warner changed my IP number to a "location" that is 70 miles away which played havoc with my Nest thermostat.   

Even so, if I pull up a web page to http://forecast.io, it gives me a location that is about 22 miles away from me.  That's because of Time-Warner's DNS records, not Acurite or Google Maps.

So basically your first paragraph has nothing to do with Acurite at all, but rather how the forecast.io website tries to determine your location from your IP address.


Here's how the myAcurite side of things work:

The darksky api requires the use latitude and longitude.  Acurite derives that information from your address via Google Maps.  Acurite then submits a query to darksky using that information.

As for as NWS precision goes, the boundaries for forecast zones are available on the internet.  At my Nebraksa location, the NWS forecast zone covers 12 zip codes.   At my Texas residence, the NWS forecast zone covers 19 zip codes.  Your location may vary, but in general the zip codes provide finer resolution that the NWS zones.  That doesn't mean your forecasts will necessarily be more refined, though.  It all depends on what data is actually available for that area.

You can look up your NWS zone here:  http://www.nws.noaa.gov/mirs/public/prods/maps/pfzones_list.htm

You might also want to read the documentation put out by darksky about their information sources.  There's some data on that here: https://darksky.net/dev/docs/sources
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If the directly above paragraph 1 is correct, the in the directly above paragraph 5 AcuRite is wasting their time because darksky.net appears to ignore the parms sent to it.

NWS forecast used here is a 'point' forecast, much smaller than a zone. If on any given day, NWS point forecasts are 'broke' for some reason, then NWS reverts to zones or areas. Point forecasts are not available for all of the US.


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I live in Nicaragua, which does not appear in the country pull down for the smart hub address.

The postal code for my device location is 16100 (El Crucero, Nicaragua) which I have set right in the smart hub address.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_codes_in_Nicaragua

The coordinates for my smart hub are:
Lat 12.062617
Lon -86.314530

But my smart hub's coordinates appear in the device settings as
Latitude:46.887994
Longitude:-124.035508

I cannot set the right latitude and longitude, so the forecast that is shown for my smart hub correspond to a place 3200+ miles north-east of my place.

What can I do?
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Hello Sergio,

My AcuRite is only available in the US, Canada, Australia, England(UK), Northern Ireland(UK), Scotland(UK), and Whales (UK) at this time.